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After having read so many blogs about todays youth and the many things that go on in todays world, I was compelled to share this story.  Last night I was online at the Slingo game site, playing a game I regularly play.  There were several players of different ages, and 2 of which were 15 and 17.  Now, in this game, there is an area which you can chat while you are playing.  Things are going along pretty good, and then these two youngsters begin getting to know each other.  Not a big deal.  Until they start discussing how one had been kicked out of school (she was an army brat to which she was bragging about) and the 15 y/o, well, he asked why.  To which she gladly reported because of getting caught with "weed" at school.  They found this quite humerous.  I had been conversing with these two and it was going quite well, until this came up.  Well, that's when the conversation took a turn.  Of course, my disapproval did not go over well.  To sum it up, I was called things to which I am sure that the army daddy would probably not have approved of.  These two youngsters were saying things that even most adults do not say.  Or at least in an open forum/chat would not find appropriate.  Come to find out, army brat as she calls herself was home alone, grounded, while mom and dad were in Oklahoma at the casino.  Yes, she told everyone this.  She also broadcasted she was in Wichita.  The 15 y/o I might add also came forth and broadcasted he too was in Wichita.  Now, forgive me if I am strict, overprotective, naive, whatever, but I have brought my kids up to not give out any personal information on the net.  Then again, my children are not allowed to chat online, nor get involved in any game site which allows that.  My children are 15 and 11 and yes I do leave them home alone.  They are not perfect, I do have my problems.  I do not ground them, and then leave them home alone either.  When they are grounded...I am grounded.  On one occasion, my son was overheard speaking vulgar language at a sporting event at our high school, and yes, I was told.  He was reprimanded.  So, is it me, am I being too hard on my kids?  Or are there too many kids being raised by themselves?  Are they seeing inconsistencies and that is perhaps the reason for lack of respect?   I do give my children room to grow, they have priveleges, but they do have chores, they obey the rules of our home.   These are just 2 children I observed that were out of line.  Granted it was only online, and they do not know me.  However, there were several other ladies in the room.  I hope I don't get responses about parents who can't be home because they have to work, or this or that.  You know, that is such a hot topic for me.  I could go on and on.  I think it's time to revert back to a day when we didn't live beyond our means, moms were home to raise the children, and dads worked, came home and the family spent quality time together.  Does my family do that?  Well, currently, my husband is serving the country, I am a stay at home mother, and yes we do have supper at the table.  My children are involved in community service organizations.  They are not sports oriented.    I hope for positive feedback, I am open to constructive criticism.  Thank You to all!  Have a great week!

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ratoon10 read my blog view my photos
Mar 31, 2008 | 8:40 AM

After reading your blog, I thot, 'this could have been written by me.' Except, my children @ home range from 13 -17. I am a stay @ home mom, and w/ all these 'teens @ home, I need to be home. Redhotz, I also have strong thots about mom's working outside the home, but I would only be speaking about mom's who have husbands and not the single mom. I know I would be stepping on lots of toes. Almost all of the women I know who ae mothers work outside the home. Fortunately I found a way to work here @ home. I do my best to inform my children of the evil side of the net. In the Bible it says raise up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it. I feel that goes both ways---raise them w/ little to no disipline, and you've got kids like the ones you came into. and yes, I could go on about these lazy, I wanna-be-your-friend parents. You and I definately think alike.

Searchingtoo read my blog view my photos
Mar 31, 2008 | 8:42 AM

You are not being to stict, sounds just right to me. Army brats have issues of their own.

ralex read my blog view my photos
Mar 31, 2008 | 3:48 PM

I teach an adult evening class as a part time job. I'm impressed with the young adults that I see every semester. 18 to 24 year olds who are smart, respectful, and hard drivin individuals. I realize that some remain out in the streets and will eventually be a burden on society, but there are just as many bright ones who will one day be running our society.

jdembski read my blog view my photos
Mar 31, 2008 | 4:16 PM

I don't think being a stay at home mom versus work mom has to do anything with that and studies back that up. There are just as many kids who grew up with a stay at home mom that get into trouble as those with parents that work. It comes down to parenting. Being a stay at home mom doesn't guarentee that mom is a good parent. Same goes with those that work.

I have a next door neighbor who is a stay at home. She has three kids that are ages 4-9. They are total hellions. But the parents have rude tendencies about them so I think the kids are a reflection of the parents. This stay at home mom sent her kids to daycare, has a housekeeper that comes like twice a month so I am not sure what she does. My wife works, we have two kids and one on the way. We eat dinner together every night. Our kids have structure, chores, and an understanding that privileges will be revoked for bad behavior. Again it comes down to parenting and not whether there is a stay at home mom or not.

queenabell read my blog
Mar 31, 2008 | 4:21 PM

I was a single mother of four. Of course I had to work, but was always home to fix supper so we could all sit down together, as a family. I was a Den Mother, member of the PTA, Girl Scout Cookie Chairman, which didn't leave me much time for a life of my own. My kids weren't perfect, but this was back in days when parents had rights. When there was a problem, I handled it the best way possible, according to the individual child. I didn't beat my kids with a belt, never slapped them in the face, but when needed I used a wooden spoon on their behinds.
It was much more affective than "time out", which in my opinion is a waste of time.
As a parent, it's up to you to know how best to handle your kids and teach them respect, at the same time. I now have 2 kids in their 50's and 2 in their 40's. All very successful and still call my friends Mr. or Mrs.
The important thing is to let kids know you love them, by teaching them good morals and chastising them when it's called for. Be there for them, always, and with God's help you can't go wrong.

lizard7151971 read my blog
Mar 31, 2008 | 4:34 PM

redhotz, I don't see anything wrong with how you raise your children. Mine is 8 and is already thinking she is 16. She has very strict and drown out boundaries. And like you said, when she is grounded, we are grounded (Although she is 8, and don't have the liberties that your children may have because of the age).

But everyday I see the teenagers and even younger trying to act as if they are adults. Like you said, using language that is very foul. I see kids that have been picked up by the cops on a regular bases to the point the police knows half the High School by first name.

They may think your mean or too strict, but just let it roll off your back. My Mother and Father were were strict with me growing up and in my 36 years, I have had only two traffic violations. I also learned to respect people and their feelings. I tell my Mom and Dad that I was glad they raised me as strict as they did.

When yours get to an adult age, they may thank you also....

ratoon10 read my blog view my photos
Mar 31, 2008 | 5:03 PM

When I speak of stay-@-home moms, I'm talking about stability and awarness of the children and not a stay @ home that does nothing but watch TV and eat. And to be fair, some moms HAVE TO work even tho their husbands have a job. It's very hard to raise a family on one salary these days. I think Redhotz and I were speaking of the husband and wife team who can't do w/o island vacations and a huge mortage and several cars. My husband and I both work; fortunately I work @ home. I was blessed to be able to do this.

BasehorLady read my blog view my photos
Mar 31, 2008 | 11:21 PM

Luckily I'm able to work part time. When I was pregnant with my first born, I asked the Board of Directors if I could go part time. They were ok with it. Worked great since the son was born with Down Syndrome and I had to take him to special school two days a week at first, I worked the other three days. As needs changed and I had to switch days for school, I went in on the days he did not have school. I'm still part time, almost 16 years later. I make sure I get the boys on the bus, I then go to work, leave around 2:15 p.m. and make sure I'm home when the boys get off the bus, then I help with homework, fix something for dinner, and now on Tue and Thurs take the boys to swimming lessons... I have a husband that works for GM. With his hours, he cannot help with the boys. My mom was a housewife and wonderful mom. She was always there when I needed her, and I was determined to do the same for my kids when they were born. Luckily, only because of the wonderful place where I work, am I able to continue this schedule. I owe them a tremendous amount! So does my family!

Shoediva read my blog
Apr 1, 2008 | 7:50 AM

My brother and I are Army brats. Being one does not condone bad behavior. As for issues, everyone has them, but both of us are college educated, hold responsible jobs, have families, never been arrested, used drugs, gotten speeding tickets or any of the other things that are expected to happen. What we did gain was an appreciation for other people, cultures and a fond appreciation of different foods (by the way, we're not fat). My point is that when kids act out, they are probably needing attention and parameters in which to operate. They could also be victims of negative peer pressure which can be devastating if there is not a strong support system.

jpbikerfreak read my blog view my photos
Apr 1, 2008 | 11:09 AM

You're doing a GREAT job raising your kids. You're not overly strict, you're just a good old fashioned PARENT.

Many parents today are not PARENTS, they're "best friends" with their kids. I've run into this quite a bit.

Two of my teens (daughters) got into trouble of their own last night. The cops told me they're more scared of kids than adults these days.

mrgrim read my blog
Apr 1, 2008 | 12:33 PM

Army girl will be the type of girl to get pregnant and put her baby in a plastic bag. Again, where ARE the parents when this is going on? Yet they will expect, no, DEMAND that society is at fault for the behavior of their children. And isn't bingo considered a form of gambling? What were 2 UNDERAGE MINORS doing gambling? So many red flags on this one. Doesn't anyone else see that or is it just cute that they are so adult? Treehuggers wake up.

StephentheHeathen read my blog view my photos
Apr 1, 2008 | 1:43 PM

mrgrimm, what does treehugging have to do with disrepectful kids?

mrgrim read my blog
Apr 1, 2008 | 2:42 PM

They are the ones that want to be friends and hang out with their children and they wouldn't dare to punish the little darlings no matter what they destroy or what they do in or to society. They wouldn't want them to befall the terrible fate that their evil parents forced on them by correcting and disciplining them. Oh my, oh dear, how terrible that we should do such horrid things to our darlings. It's ok to let them turn out to be the dregs of society, they are only expressing themselves. Well anyway, you get the point. And it starts by letting the village idiots raise the children rather than enforcing some good and decent parental skills which alot of these people appear to be lacking.

BroncoJoe read my blog
Apr 1, 2008 | 2:52 PM

Redhotz,I think you are being a good parent,but now unfortunately we live in an era where you pretty much have to have 2 incomes to support your family unless you are rich. Back when moms can afford to stay at home while dads go to work they didn't have to spend $3.15 a gallon for gas,$4.00 for milk etc. Granted depending on how old the kids are you have to pay daycare when both parents are working unless you are fortunate enough to have family to help. So I know you didn't want to hear an argument about that, but I just wanted to point out some people aren't that fortunate to have a stay at home mom.

StephentheHeathen read my blog view my photos
Apr 1, 2008 | 6:31 PM

Well mrgrim, I consider myself a "treehugger" but that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm a liberal on all things. On some political issues I'm considered liberal and I am an environmentalist.

I have raised, with my wife, four children that now range in age from 20 to 26 years old. They have never been arrested and they all have decent jobs.

I was friends with them and hung out with them, but they knew who the parent was. They were disciplined (including a few spankings and raps on the head), when they did something wrong and praise and hugs when they did something right, but I loved them all the time. And yes when they were grounded, we were grounded. They weren't left alone very much at all. As they got older the teachings of respect took hold and now they come to me as a counciler as my role of disciplinarian changed when they moved out.

I agree with your village idiot view, the parents are ultimately responsible for their children, but please leave out or change your gross generalizations.

bigbird814 read my blog
Apr 1, 2008 | 7:58 PM

i agree completely

redhotz read my blog
Apr 1, 2008 | 9:21 PM

I appreciate all the feedback. I wish I could agree however with the comments that in todays day and age that it nearly takes 2 incomes though. Ratoon I thank you for having my back when you understand where I am coming from when I talk about the two income situation. My husband and I do not have tons of extra money. We live on military pay, and do not live above our means. We have simply made sacrifices. Our children do not go without, we do not drive shabby vehicles, we have just paid for the ones we have, and we take care of them. I am not berating nor do I look down on those who choose to or have to work two jobs. I simply think that if more people would change their ways, we could have more moms or dads at home instilling values and morals in their children. It's just my opinion. Thank You everyone! Have a great week!

mrgrim read my blog
Apr 2, 2008 | 10:35 AM

Stephen,
I have worked with or around these families for years and it is just based on the first hand knowledge I have and most of it is the breakdown of the family sector for reasons that I mentioned. However, I will give you credit as it sounds like the situation has worked for you and I say kudos to you for your endeavors. Yes, I agree that not everyone handles things the same way, but generally speaking, it has been what I have witnessed. However, I am willing to give that concession that not all treehuggers are bad people. Some just have some disorganized thinking. I fully agree with redhotz last statement that if more people would change their ways we would have more morals & values in children. I wish everyone well who is fighting to raise a family these days. You need all the help you can get, thats for sure! And I mean that in a good way.

StephentheHeathen read my blog view my photos
Apr 2, 2008 | 3:43 PM

No hard feelings here, mrgrimm, I just wanted to point out the generalization.

I have seen these types of families too, especially the mothers trying to look like their daughters when I have been out shopping. Or the "my Johnny does nothing wrong" kids that were anything but that on some of my baseball teams that I coached. I have just never made the distinction of bad parenting with being liberal or conservative.

I also agree with redhotz's statement, the world would be a better and safer place. The lack of morals and respect in certain young people are being shown more and more in the evening news and a crowded store.

BTW - Thanks for the concession, hope it didn't hurt to much!

ratoon10 read my blog view my photos
Apr 2, 2008 | 3:58 PM

It seems to me that stephenTH took measures to make sure everything was equal. I'll never tell my children this until they get older, but they are people I would rather be w/ than anyone else. I have 2 grown children who ave their won families now that we hang out w/. I know what StephenTH is saying too; I follow you. I've observed the cruelty of parents who can't stand to be w/ their children. They hate summer vacation and can't wait till school starts so they can get the kids out of thier hair. If I felt that way I would have never had my 6.

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